Malcom J. Perry “Black Hole Memory”
See Also: Backreaction: More about Hawking and Perry’s new proposal to solve the black hole information loss problem
Malcom J. Perry “Black Hole Memory”
See Also: Backreaction: More about Hawking and Perry’s new proposal to solve the black hole information loss problem
The modern double-slit experiment is a demonstration that light and matter can display characteristics of both classically defined waves and particles; moreover, it displays the fundamentally probabilistic nature of quantum mechanical phenomena. This experiment was performed originally by Thomas Young in 1801 (well before quantum mechanics) simply to demonstrate the wave theory of light and is sometimes referred to as Young’s experiment.[1] The experiment belongs to a general class of “double path” experiments, in which a wave is split into two separate waves that later combine into a single wave. Changes in the path lengths of both waves result in a phase shift, creating an interference pattern. Another version is the Mach–Zehnder interferometer, which splits the beam with a mirror.Double-slit experiment
To some researchers, the experiments suggest that quantum objects are as definite as droplets, and that they too are guided by pilot waves — in this case, fluid-like undulations in space and time. These arguments have injected new life into a deterministic (as opposed to probabilistic) theory of the microscopic world first proposed, and rejected, at the birth of quantum mechanics. See:
Have We Been Interpreting Quantum Mechanics Wrong This Whole Time?
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In youtube example video given, I must say if you have ever seen Taylor and Hulse’s binary system, I couldn’t help but see some relation. Such rotation, would cause gravitational wave that seems to hold the droplet in position for examination……but the gravitational wave production, is an affect of this rotation so I am puzzled by this.
Natalie Wolchover is pretty good at her job, and I think drew attention to the idea of a Bohemian mechanics/Pilot wave theory. This, as an alteration of choice of quantum mechanics it became clear, how interpretation was pervasive at the time between these two groups, as a point of view. Not saying this is the case, but as I read I see the division between the scientists as to how an interpretation arose between them, some choose one way and others, another. And still they did not discard the world of the two groups but leaned specifically to one side over another.
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I am looking at the experiment itself as illustrated in my link to youtube video of respective scientists given the relation and analogy used. This is to see the aspect of their relation to something current in our understanding “as observation,” and something much more to it as particle and wave together. Still trying to understand the analogy. In the experiment, what leads the way, the wave, or the particle/droplet? The “wave function” guides the particle/droplet, yes? Why of course, it is called pilot-wave theory.
Before the experiment begins then, you know the particles state “as a wave function,” and given that this is already known, “the particle” rides the wave function, is exemplary of the nature of the perspective in the first place, as to what is already known. Hmmmm….sounds a little confusing to me as I was seeing the waves in the experiment, but given that such state of coalesce exists when experiment is done, raises questions for me about the shaker as a necessity?
So cosmological you are looking to the past? You look up at the night sky and when were all these messages received in the classical sense but to be an observer of what happened a long time ago. You recognize the pathway as a wave function already before the experimenter of the double slit even begins. It has a trajectory path already given as the wave function is known with regard to A to B. These are not probabilities then, if recognized as potential of the wave function as already defining a pathway.
The pathway expressed as the pattern, had to already been established as a causative event in the evolution in the recognition of a collision course regarding any synchronized event located in the quantum world, as a wave function pattern. You are dealing with a Bohemian interpretation here.
On the flip side, I see spintronics, as a wave function giving consideration to the y direction. It is a analogy that comes to mind when I think of the fluid. Whether right or not, I see an association.
The idea, as a wave function is seen in regard to this chain as an illustration of the complexity of the fluid surface https://youtu.be/pWQ3r-2Xjeo
To go further then,
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So fast forward to the idealistic perception of the analog by comparison in today’s use against a backdrop of the theories and what do we see?
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I think its the Feynman approached the work of Dirac by using Feyman diagrams to illustrate a mapping of the interactions. Now to me the visualization techniques are much as Feynman puts it, where okay you are an alien, how would you approach the world and you see Feynman comes up with the method…..I think reiterating what his Father said to him.
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So Feynman’s series sort of helps you to set your self up in such a way in order to see that perception has to be ignited in such a way as to ask question in a the approach he discusses.
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So for Dirac to to help us understand anti-matter as symbol within the matrices, beauty in the analytical way, also needs as good way to visualize what he was doing. IN the same breathe Penrose uses Riemann sphere to elucidate the geometry as a sister approach to developing his thoughts regarding the universe. A geometrical underpinning.
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So this is my suspicion and I am not sure many share it. It goes back to when Penrose’s talks about cohomology and he illustrates, Penrose’s triangle. How would he get anyone to see the way he does and point out the difficulties and say, maybe you have an answer, because I do not know? Your invited?
So you develop a model, and lets call it a virtual reality. Once you climb on board how will your world view have changed that the things you answer seem so different, had you not answer the question without such a bias? A alien really, I think this was quite suggestive of Feynman to help others see away into what he was doing.
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Shut Up and Calculate, you get what was meant.
Maybe, you will invoke different models with analytical functions in order to help you see differently, add perspectives that without considering Feynman’s approach, this advancement in thinking would not take place. We get to these points and move the goal post(we get stuck), in order to see where the ole timers left off, and prepares for the next generation of thinkers? Feynman came to the realization on his own by correlating insights over a span of hundreds of years, by himself, not with others, so how did he do that? He is telling us. Like Penrose is telling us, requires visualization capabilities that have already been mapped and can be mapped to higher dimensions? What purpose to see Adinkras that will light the way toward…..???????
Beauty is understood then, when it came to pass, Dirac’s equations lead the way, and Little did we know how Dirac actually used his perception. It propelled him forward, as it does for Penrose, but the beauty remains, and how far forward will somebody else with vision help us toward the next step?
So cosmological you are looking to the past? You look up at the night sky and when were all these messages received in the classical sense but to be an observer of what happened a long time ago.
In his book Synchronicity (1952), Jung tells the following story as an example of a synchronistic event:
My example concerns a young woman patient who, in spite of efforts made on both sides, proved to be psychologically inaccessible. The difficulty lay in the fact that she always knew better about everything. Her excellent education had provided her with a weapon ideally suited to this purpose, namely a highly polished Cartesian rationalism with an impeccably “geometrical” idea of reality. After several fruitless attempts to sweeten her rationalism with a somewhat more human understanding, I had to confine myself to the hope that something unexpected and irrational would turn up, something that would burst the intellectual retort into which she had sealed herself. Well, I was sitting opposite her one day, with my back to the window, listening to her flow of rhetoric. She had an impressive dream the night before, in which someone had given her a golden scarab — a costly piece of jewellery. While she was still telling me this dream, I heard something behind me gently tapping on the window. I turned round and saw that it was a fairly large flying insect that was knocking against the window-pane from outside in the obvious effort to get into the dark room. This seemed to me very strange. I opened the window immediately and caught the insect in the air as it flew in. It was a scarabaeid beetle, or common rose-chafer (Cetonia aurata), whose gold-green colour most nearly resembles that of a golden scarab. I handed the beetle to my patient with the words, “Here is your scarab.” This experience punctured the desired hole in her rationalism and broke the ice of her intellectual resistance. The treatment could now be continued with satisfactory results.[16]
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…events are “meaningful coincidences” if they occur with no apparent causal relationship, yet seem to be meaningfully related.
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Yes you can see how the world of the woman by an event, knocked her out of her orbit?
…….in events given by deja Vu, this is a lining up of the information that exists in the mathematical/dream world to events as a classical description? The causal connection can seem totally unrelated, in the case that natural world described as the classical, can intercede with the mental realm of ones thought with such precision as to its timing. I had an event, given that I was lost in the mental realm of deep thought, and the correlation of cognition as to an event, did happen and materialized in that same exact moment. You have to understand that you are aware of this deeper level of action going on underneath the existence of the material world.
If we examined the nature of time in regards to what can exist in two places at one time what would relegated the experience so as to confirm a connection with nature’s animal with one’s internal experience? So one perceives experience in life as lining up with other people blending with them, but the true value of the synchronize event is not really understood this way. What is the scarab’s role “as a another group of people,” following the same path way to merge with yours? Do we say the scarab and people, are the same thing? Now of course as I think deeper on this subject questions arise as to how one may see the world of dream time? This is so as to suggest that patterns are arising from a different world then the one we awaken too. So how do such patterns in seeing allow us to see and have precognitive events of what is to come? Just some thoughts then in regard to what happens in a irrational state so as to suggest that quantum cognition is operating in these areas where patterns are emerging? Can such an allocation of the mathematical realm ensue into the world of the classical in such a way as to describe that the mathematical world and dream time are on the same plain? As consciousness is exploring what affects could contain the idea of a mathematical realm distant from the affect of emotions that hold consciousness close, and in such an inspiration state allow consciousness to move beyond the containment aspect of a negative emotion? So elements of the expression of the physical world are being manipulated if I am to say, that would lead some to believe that there is no free will, yet we live lives that are not always synchronized with the pattern developed, so as having chosen a different Path?
How is causality a connect in the case of the meaning of our experiences? The example given of the woman in OP and the scarab? Maybe, it could be explained away as coincidence? See also : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caus…ng_(Psychology) ***
Feynman used his cognition skills to invent things that already happened in order to develop his skill as a scientist. He had to teach himself how discoveries were arrived at, without following the trajectory of the discoverers. This correlation of cognition sets up his confidence skills so as to pursue how he saw the world, and how he could simplify the interaction of such particles, as to say, these are feynman diagrams. Regarding the quote of Einstein’s reminded me of Dirac and what he had to say.
Yes I was looking into Jim Gate’s Adinkras. But regarding your observations I am looking.( https://youtu.be/b6w0K5FIgsU?t=29m22s ) What beauty emerges and you understand what a story does to helping to change perspective about a topic. That this is totally devoid of the materialistic notion that art can bring toward our understanding of what lies in the realm of ideas, all of a sudden blossoms on screen as color. Such shifts in perspective have been understood with regard to sonification, as color. While it has a history this bend toward the mystical, it is a valid correlation when see light as a chaldni plate recording shape with sound. Such distinctions, in there own right serve to illustrate a collapse of the wave function?
So what is needed to step outside the box figuratively?? What did Jim Gates and the crew do? So, here are nice youtube interview videos of Feynmen that you might enjoy. Feynman: Take the world from another point of view (1/4) https://youtu.be/PsgBtOVzHKI The point(This is synesthesia-yes I know) is that when you look from different perspective and remain open to information you get insights as to the way in which the storyteller provides a new platform for you. Same as Jim Gates and the Adinkras. You do not have to believe its real or not but the ideas arise out of a place that we may call irrationality, but the beauty of information does now settle into the mind. Do you understand what I am saying….I am using synesthesia as an example. Its not a vase, but a face. A cube, can shift your perspective. Cross wiring in the brain allows this attribute of synesthesia to bring a new perspective to the reality, yet, it is still a sensual example of our participation in the real world of senses. You have to be able to shift perspective, to be able to garner new points of view.
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So you keep this diagram in mind. We then go to looking at this other linked video.
The understanding of the word “erasure,” needs to be clarified in relation too, diagrams.
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So consider this for example. Space time arises from a 5d world. Unification of quantum gravity and light, allow us to have a 4 dimensional understanding of the classical world. If you assume that a 2d screen is a 5D world, then what happens behind the screen?
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Is it a materialistic view you encounter, or perhaps a point of view you establish by your choice of perceptible qualities that exist for you now?? Given there is a potential for meaning, then, one “same” meaning could not have been encountered by all, for it leaves room for probability encounters, that reveal different views of the world…..yet, some will get the probable meaning, as to what exactly I am saying.
Quantum Theory, is not a materialistic point of view.
The path of least resistance from a the path of probable outcomes?
What would this look like if we were to say such traveling paths through the cosmos were defined by the paths of least resistance versus a probability paths. Clumping, or interference. If you understand what I am writing then please comment. I would like my thinking to be destroyed by your reason and your science, or you can help clear up misconceptions that are forming wrongly as a Bad idea.
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Maybe I should insert here how we might look at gravitational lensing and gravitation field influences as to how that lensing can distort or divert the photon’s path…….just another way to look at the way gravitational influences affect the photon’s path…..to see that the least resistance could as a affect not deviate speed of light in one of those tunnels as a way in which to determine satellite travel? Should there be a correction here?
My assumptions are generalizations, so I needed to look further to understand this relationship in regards to abstractions and how one can see in different ways. I wanted to see as far as I could in correspondence with the physics, to understand what quantum theory may mean if and when united with gravity as to a correspondence to dimensional references.
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The simulation argument for me needed to be understood better as well, so the 2d screen needed for me to be further explained as pixels are used to highlight the depth of our abstractions. Banchoff demonstrations in terms of the geometry as an abstraction in geometry for instance. Topology.
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There is then this being incompatible with each other( gravity and Quantum Theory) that has been talked about that Einstein was after in explaining things in terms of materialism, and to find, that Quantum theory is not a materialist explanation. So I find Einsteins attempts and recognition in later life as a step toward the need for such unification.
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This screen has no depth other then the representations that we see are on this screen. You can call them pixels. What does a 5d world mean? In essence this is not about materialism anymore but a grasp for uniting space time with quantum theory? The 2d screen is derived from a 5d reality.
The understanding then sought for is that gravity and light are connected in a 5d world. Is a photon affected as it travels through a gravity field? What did Einstein mean as to a slide of light?
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I am assuming the neurobiology affect of quantum processes already is an an example of the process itself, if it uses quantum mechanical processes as interference.
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The use of eeg machinery is already established as interferences patterns, hence, brain wave patterns?
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A question that may arise is, as to the definitive state of entanglement as an ambiguous figure. While interference affects as ambiguous perceptions, which arise as mental patterns as wave forms prior too? Thus, the collapse of the wave function, as an entanglement.
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The lines can change perspective and position…. as if the cube is protruding outward or inward(The orientation of the Necker cube can also be altered by shifting the observer’s point of view. When seen from apparent above, one face tends to be seen closer; and in contrast, when seen from a subjective viewpoint that is below, a different face comes to the fore) as to describe it’s geometric shape. Other examples here can be found(Rubin’s vase -(These types of stimuli are both interesting and useful because they provide an excellent and intuitive demonstration of the figure–ground distinction the brain makes during visual perception.).
Bold added to emphasize, direct and indirect realism- a dualism I believe occurs here, points toward the foundation, as Bohr looking at William James which lead to Heisenberg Uncertainty principal(Quantum Cognition and Bounded Rationality PG 27 to Pg 30)….and other assumptions.
There are no phenomenological experiments to suggest quantum cognition is real other then to see how the model works in relation too, questions and answers, or, to declare entanglement as a self evident state in my view.
The Necker cube is a paradigmatic example for bistable perception where pattern reversal obeys a particular probability distribution. Atmanspacher, Filk and Römer (2004) discussed this switching dynamics in terms of the quantum Zeno effect where “observation” (here attending to a percept) increases the dwell-time of an otherwise fast decaying unobserved state. Quantum Cognition, Bistable perception
Regarding consciousness then.
Awareness as irrationality shows then, that such information as to reaching our cognitive status as irrationality, can move to identify with a self evident position. This may help to show the process of inductive deductive relationship which leads to an over arching position as to being self evident. Aristotle, did not jettison Plato.
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PLato said,"Look to the perfection of the heavens for truth," while Aristotle said "look around you at what is, if you would know the truth" To Remember: Eskesthai
PLato said,"Look to the perfection of the heavens for truth," while Aristotle said "look around you at what is, if you would know the truth" To Remember: Eskesthai
PLato said,"Look to the perfection of the heavens for truth," while Aristotle said "look around you at what is, if you would know the truth" To Remember: Eskesthai
PLato said,"Look to the perfection of the heavens for truth," while Aristotle said "look around you at what is, if you would know the truth" To Remember: Eskesthai
PLato said,"Look to the perfection of the heavens for truth," while Aristotle said "look around you at what is, if you would know the truth" To Remember: Eskesthai
PLato said,"Look to the perfection of the heavens for truth," while Aristotle said "look around you at what is, if you would know the truth" To Remember: Eskesthai
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